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	<title>Kommentare zu: About click through interfaces</title>
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	<description>From the land of wobbly windows</description>
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		<title>Von: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8701</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a very good idea.  With compositing disabled, it&#039;s annoying that the notifications just disappear when you mouse over them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very good idea.  With compositing disabled, it&#8217;s annoying that the notifications just disappear when you mouse over them.</p>
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		<title>Von: Vide</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8372</link>
		<dc:creator>Vide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>afiestas and martin: ok, thanks for the info... cause right now I&#039;m using gnome (don&#039;t want to mess with packages to downgrade to 4.3) as shell, although using as always almost only KDE applications.
I&#039;ll wait for beta2 to see if other bugs as well are fixed (right know even with a fresh user plasma-desktop is not executed on login, I&#039;ve to alt+f2 and launch it manually, it&#039;s really strange, CPU consumption is 4-5 times higher than with plasma 4.3 and so on...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afiestas and martin: ok, thanks for the info&#8230; cause right now I&#8217;m using gnome (don&#8217;t want to mess with packages to downgrade to 4.3) as shell, although using as always almost only KDE applications.<br />
I&#8217;ll wait for beta2 to see if other bugs as well are fixed (right know even with a fresh user plasma-desktop is not executed on login, I&#8217;ve to alt+f2 and launch it manually, it&#8217;s really strange, CPU consumption is 4-5 times higher than with plasma 4.3 and so on&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Von: afiestas</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8356</link>
		<dc:creator>afiestas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vide, don&#039;t worry because there are people working on improve the current Plasma 4.4 notifications, and I can assure you that they won&#039;t come out in the current state.

Btw, a few hours ago notmart modified 3 lines which improve the situation a lot :) so don&#039;t worry they won&#039;t be that painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vide, don&#8217;t worry because there are people working on improve the current Plasma 4.4 notifications, and I can assure you that they won&#8217;t come out in the current state.</p>
<p>Btw, a few hours ago notmart modified 3 lines which improve the situation a lot <img src='http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  so don&#8217;t worry they won&#8217;t be that painful.</p>
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		<title>Von: Martin</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8351</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that is Beta 1. Try again with Beta 2 - it got some good improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that is Beta 1. Try again with Beta 2 &#8211; it got some good improvement.</p>
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		<title>Von: Vide</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8350</link>
		<dc:creator>Vide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other side we have Plasma 4.4 notifications wich requires a LOT OF EFFORT to make them disappear, even if they are purely informative like kmail&#039;s ones.

I really do hope that&#039;s a kubuntu&#039;s packages problem or it&#039;s a known bug that&#039;s going to be solved cause in plasma 4.4 notifications are pretty unusable (aka ayatana is way better)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other side we have Plasma 4.4 notifications wich requires a LOT OF EFFORT to make them disappear, even if they are purely informative like kmail&#8217;s ones.</p>
<p>I really do hope that&#8217;s a kubuntu&#8217;s packages problem or it&#8217;s a known bug that&#8217;s going to be solved cause in plasma 4.4 notifications are pretty unusable (aka ayatana is way better)</p>
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		<title>Von: Simon</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8338</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another option for non-compositing systems is to still change the visual representation of the notification without compositing. For example, keep a thin border of the notification and hide the centre. There is still a visual indication that the notification is there, but it is obvious where the click will go. Although this may not look good. I guess it would require mockups and tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another option for non-compositing systems is to still change the visual representation of the notification without compositing. For example, keep a thin border of the notification and hide the centre. There is still a visual indication that the notification is there, but it is obvious where the click will go. Although this may not look good. I guess it would require mockups and tests.</p>
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		<title>Von: Martin</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8335</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok that is a workaround and while an animation would be helpful I agree that it is probably bad for ressources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok that is a workaround and while an animation would be helpful I agree that it is probably bad for ressources.</p>
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		<title>Von: Aurélien Gâteau</title>
		<link>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2009/12/about-click-through-interfaces/comment-page-1/#comment-8334</link>
		<dc:creator>Aurélien Gâteau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, when running on a non-composited display, Colibri hides the notification when you mouse over it. This is of course less nice than fading out, but I believe it provides a reasonable fallback.

At one time I was thinking about implementing a non-composited-display friendly animation, something similar to what Kicker in KDE 3 was doing with tooltips, but in the end I thought people running in a non-composited display are probably low on resources, so it made little sense to implement this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, when running on a non-composited display, Colibri hides the notification when you mouse over it. This is of course less nice than fading out, but I believe it provides a reasonable fallback.</p>
<p>At one time I was thinking about implementing a non-composited-display friendly animation, something similar to what Kicker in KDE 3 was doing with tooltips, but in the end I thought people running in a non-composited display are probably low on resources, so it made little sense to implement this.</p>
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